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[BrianS1979]

Hello Everyone,
I know there are people wondering about the mail. I have a confession to make: It was my fault! I was attempting to restart qmail because mails passing thru forward were being stamped with vortechhosting.com and I know you resellers don't want that. Anyhow, the mail is being caught up and you will not lose anything. I apologize for any inconveniences.

[ramjet]

Thanks Brian.
Now thats good communication!

[cambodia]

ditto thank for info brian it's make me feel happy when i know what happened with my work

[generic]

noticed my incoming email has dropped dramatically this weekend.

specifically the spam.

Either you got something right, and the spam is grinding to a halt, or you got something terribly wrong and I am not receiving my email, but sincs I am not getting any calls about not returning emails, I am guessing you may have gotten it right.

[Garreg]

Hey.... we all make mistakes..... thanks for letting us know

[admin]

Originally Posted by tracewebspace

noticed my incoming email has dropped dramatically this weekend.

specifically the spam.

Either you got something right, and the spam is grinding to a halt, or you got something terribly wrong and I am not receiving my email, but sincs I am not getting any calls about not returning emails, I am guessing you may have gotten it right.

All the spammers are getting ready for Super Bowl XXXIX

Go Patriots... hehe

[dpyers]

Originally Posted by BrianS1979

Hello Everyone,
I know there are people wondering about the mail. I have a confession to make: It was my fault!

If you don't screw up once in a while, you're not commited to doing your job well!

[Pace]

Ok. since something about mailing issues are being discussed here I though this is fit place to discuss my problem. I am reproducing a transcript received from one of my clients that is self-explanatory:

-----Original Message-----
From: MAILER-DAEMON@forward.hsphere.cc
[mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@forward.hsphere.cc]
Sent: 07 February 2005 08:38
To: krishna@avntgroup.com
Subject: failure notice



Hi. This is the qmail-send program at forward.hsphere.cc.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.


<msm@worldroom.com>:
202.71.128.156 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 553 Blocked - see
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?216.157.144.213
Giving up on 202.71.128.156.


<director@worldroom.com>:
202.71.128.156 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 553 Blocked - see
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?216.157.144.213
Giving up on 202.71.128.156.
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Any idea why is this happening??

[chungmike]

On a similar note, is anyone having other email problems?

I'm having trouble with FormMail issues in that the email from the resulting form does not get to its destination. The FormMail.pl script works fine in that pages are redirected, but the email doesn't show up.

Also I just created an email forwarder within the HSphere control panel. The forwarder was created successfully, but the email does not work when tested.

It's a very annoying problem for me lately.

Does anyone have any fixes around this? (btw, I already submitted trouble tickets)

[Brangwyn]

It may just be delayed chungmike .. I've found email unreliable at best recently with emails taking many hours to be delivered sometimes.

[tkraffty]

I've run two tests of mail from scripts in recent days, and it appears (atleast in my case) messages going through the localhost could take anywhere from 1 to 8 hours to arrive. I'm hoping we can get some more attention focused right there.

If there's any way to distinguish between valid messages (from a local script, with a valid From address, etc) and invalid and/or external requests, I'm sure hoping the valid ones can be "fast-tracked" outside of whatever queue appears to be taking so long to process all outgoing messages right now.

Anyway, I don't understand the routing enough to offer any suggestion other than that... but up to 8 hours to receive a confirmation from a local address is too much for me.

My 2 cents..

TK

[Brangwyn]

Maybe it's time to consider using something other than the IIS SMTP Service and perhaps something a little more robust.

[tkraffty]

Weird, I just noticed I've received a few bouncebacks like those "Pace" described above...

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at forward.hsphere.cc.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<(HIDDEN)@myway.com>:
208.45.133.151 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [216.157.144.213] blocked using dynablock.myway.com; Your message could not be delivered due to complaints we received regarding the IP address you're using or your ISP. See http://blackholes.myway.com/ Error: WS-02
Giving up on 208.45.133.151.

[tkraffty]

So... it appears that one spammer - or even only a suspected spammer - can prevent EVERYONE from an entire data-center from reaching recipients on certain ISPs... while the spammers continue to get through just fine... Now, that doesn't make much sense, does it? drats Not blaming VT, but the government and business bastards who somehow think s-p-a-m is helping the economy...

Vortech - if you'd like to file a class-action against the ISPs, I'd be glad to sign-on. There's no legal basis for the ISP's position that spam a particular data-center can't control should prevent all users of that data-center from communications with subscribers to the ISP. It's ridiculous, and it's time to do something about it...

[Brangwyn]

So... it appears that one spammer - or even only a suspected spammer - can prevent EVERYONE from an entire data-center from reaching recipients on certain ISPs...

Sadly I believe so (though not every server does go via the forwarder), I said on the initial thread when this mailforwarder was being introduced that I thought it was a bad idea for just this reason. Rather than having the odd server or two blacklisted we now end up with large groups of servers effectively being blacklisted simply becuase they route via the forwarder.