Terrorist Attacks

[Garreg]

Don't what shocks me more.... Today several bombs exploded in London (UK) leaving 38 dead and 700 injured. Yet despite the kindness of the British people to others in their time of need - unless you visit news sites, all across the net, virtually nothing. No condolences, no words of sympathy.. nothing.

What a sad World, that we only care about what happens to 'Us'.

Me, I'm proud to be British (as many of the regulars here already know ) and feel nothing but sadness for the latest loss of life as a result of sick terrorism.

[Altair]

I too feel badly about the attacks in London. I don't see the point of the attacks, and if they are trying to make us scared, they are kidding themselves.

All they are doing is gathering more and more enemies against them, until eventually there is no where left to hide.

You are correct, it is a sad thing not to recognize people that were meaninglessly killed or wounded. WE need to do something about these people that completely distort and betray their religious beliefs, turning it into something evil.

By "WE", I mean we need to stop fighting with each other and come together as a race, rather than separate countries. It's not hard, people just make it that way.

[Altair]

Retracted statement

[Garreg]

Originally Posted by Altair

By "WE", I mean we need to stop fighting with each other and come together as a race, rather than separate countries. It's not hard, people just make it that way.

That's a nice thought...... but history teaches us - our worst enemy, is ourselves.

[awen]

I'm still waiting for "the nation of Islam" to start policing their own people. Sure, they express outrage at terrorism, but talk is cheap. What have they actively done to curb terrorism?

What is going to happen is people are going to get sick of it all and turn on anyone they think is Islamic. From bigots in the streets antagonizing them, to governments rounding them up in POW camps like we did to the Japanese in WWII.

THEN things will be truly bad. But's happened in the past, and it could again unless they start taking responsibility for those lashing out in their names.

My condolences, thoughts and prayers to the people of the United Kingdom. These mere words can't begin to express my feelings, but they come closer than remaining silent.

[cambodia]

yes i ever heard of news too i'm so pity on england my fiance in australia so shock about this and worry don't know when they gonna attack other country include australia i don't know what that bomber think about , they spend their life also people life for what ? nonsense

[mresell]

well..I think that is a bit harsh. I think it just happened so there will be condolences. I just saw some stories on cnn..first place I looked.

[DigitalSkyline]

I wouldn't expect any huge emotional outpouring, at least not anything like 9/11, the scale of the attack just wasn't as significant. The same death toll reins day in and day out on the streets of Israel and Iraq. Not that I'm trying to downplay the attacks, they all are equally evil and those f'ing terrorists all need to die.

Now if some so-called "innocent muslims" (please) are emotionally damaged or killed in the process (even better), so be it. The world IS in this case better off without them. If you REALLY think muslims are innocent and their religion is peaceful, then you need to research a little more. There are reasons the nation of Islam doesn't police their own people... in the closet they absolutely believe the terrorists are in the right, no matter what they might say publicly.

Just as most Christians are hush-hush of the dark sides of the bible, (such as that all non-believers will burn for eternity in the lake of fire)... the Koran says that any person that rejects Islam is an infidel and should be put to death. To them it is better to die in the process of killing infidels (read: everyone besides them) then to llive allowing others to do as they please.

And sure there are secular Muslims just as Christians that pick and choose which parts of their religion they choose to follow, and these might be who the media are referring to as peaceful muslims.... to me, there is no such thing, I'm starting think the only peaceful muslim is a dead muslim.

Defend them all you want, even the President of the United States hasn't the balls to bluntly state the truth... but I could give a damn about muslims they should all equally be in our cross-hairs.

This "war on terror" is only the beginning, a preview of things to come... and all the while you're defending them, these same muslims will be exporting their cult to your neiborhood... you better believe we are nothing but marks to them. They build their armies in their mosques, right down the block...

but I forgot, ignorance is bliss.

[DVHost]

Wow! That's a bit harsh but I certainly understand your position. It does sound like a one man Wannsee Conference and your rational is no different than theirs. They want to round us up, you want to round them up, where does it end?

I have no pity for terrorists, but I also realize how many times in my life someone has crossed me and I had thoughts of how I would have liked to handle there tresspasses. But they are just thoughts and I can not be punished for them. However, if I should act upon them, I would expect to be.

We need to respect life, anyones life. If a Muslim or group, sect or human steps out of line, we handle them accordingly. Genocide is not the answer.

[mresell]

Well DS feels strongly here. However, I am lost as to who is defending them. I guess that was figurative. I think many people are greatly troubled by that part of the worlds social tendencies. I cannot believe women are treated so horribly. However, our own society has some real problems. I feel we have much to do ourselves as Americans our quality of life is eroding and so are our freedoms over time. Hate and fear are right up there with greed and apathy.

The truth is we all have to share the same planet and go thru the same crazy ride with no map so we should try to make it better not worse. Frankly, I watch or read a minimum of many types of news...it is so depressing or just plain stupid. Sometimes I think we are still in prehistoric times.

[awen]

I've run the whole gambit of emotions since 9/11. From hate and anger, to "They all can't be bad". I ran an anti-terrorism website for a while where I collected news, opinions, and photographs of victims and their stories. Particularly those who were kidnapped and beheaded.

The more I researched what was going on, the angrier I got and the sicker it made me. When you really dig in like that it is very difficult to NOT have thoughts against their entire religion. There are a great many things that we don't hear about unless we go looking for them. Things like the so-called passive muslims who are secretly supporting the terrorists while publicly condemning them. Things like these peaceful muslims discriminating against Christians. (Infidels) Even in the US!

I don't believe genocide is the answer, but I do believe something like that could happen in time unless the muslim faith takes an active role in curbing the terrorists. Not just in the US or Britain, but all over the world.

It's a very difficult thing to track down and stop a cell, because we're talking about tiny, close-knit groups. The only way to really dig in and root them out quickly will result in losing many of our freedoms. Imagine having to show your ID everywhere you go, and if you don't have authorization to be there, being detained. Imagine vast background checks being run on every single person and every bad decision you ever made be scrutinized for any possible links to terrorism. Obviously we won't tolerate that, so the war will be a long one, and there will be many more attacks like London, Spain, and New York.

I don't see the terrorists as soldiers fighting a war, nor do I see them as revolutionists. They are vermin who need to be exterminated with extreme predjudice. That means I believe they do not have the right to a trial anywhere. They should be hunted down and executed in the streets like the dogs they are. Like the Saudi police did to a few right after they dumped a body they had just beheaded around a year ago. This will speed up the eradication of terrorism while sending a message to the others that we mean business, and hopefully turning their appetite for blood when they see they will not have a chance to tell their story to the press or enjoy years of comfortable imprisonment.

It's easy to say these are "harsh ideas" when you haven't been directly touched by terrorism, or when you choose dismiss what is going on, or when the press doesn't print all the stories or facts.

It doesn't matter if we turn a blind eye to it, it's still out there. And that, is the harsh reality.

[Garreg]

Originally Posted by mresell

well..I think that is a bit harsh. I think it just happened so there will be condolences. I just saw some stories on cnn..first place I looked.

Your right, it wasn't intended to be, but having read it over again it does sound a bit harsh. Must have had my grumpy head on ;0

[bandeng]

I'm regret what terrorist did in london bombing and also regret iraq's people killed by US allies during war. I'm christian living in muslim country, not all the muslim support terrorist and do bad thing, should be blame on the person rather than the religion.

I like what Garreg Said our worst enemy, is ourselves and Altair to stop figthting each other. the problem is who will to stop first? action and cause is like a chain, need to be broken to stop it. either you muslim or christian, let's start from ourself.

Ricky
Peace

[mresell]

Originally Posted by Garreg

Your right, it wasn't intended to be, but having read it over again it does sound a bit harsh. Must have had my grumpy head on ;0

The problem w/ email and post...can't always tell the emotion behind it. We'll forgive you.

Also for me this is not really about religion, but human and social issues. Our own bible has things in it that sound very harsh. Women are also not reflected on kindly. The insanity of that is that women have given birth to nations, and nurtured them, but have been treated as property in most cases. (we definitely need a new PR rep. ) It always comes down to people and what they do or don't do to each other. Sadly, complete peace on earth doesn't seem possible for more time than I can fathom.

[jetzkr8]

Peace on Earth
When one will not stand in the shoes of another
there is war
When one will not let another be right
there is war
When one will not give up being stubborn
there is war
When one will not look for peace
there is war
When one WILL stand in the shoes of another
there is understanding
When one WILL let another be right
there is acceptance
When one WILL give up being stubborn
there is freedom
When one WILL look for love above all
there is peace

When our world comes crumbling down
we may simply ask HOW DID I CREATE THIS?
Not in blame, judgement or disgrace of another
but in EACH OF US.... the answers hold the key to peace on earth

With prayers, love, vision and responsibility

Written by Tina Olivero.