At last - SEO services for Vortech Resellers!

[Garreg]

There's been a lot of interest (and enquiries here ) for SEO work.....

Lots of resellers have asked for a site with some information and where 'they' can go and order SEO stuff to resell (sort of bolt on service to their own), well finally - 10m Min's ago it was uploaded

It's new... so there's lots of features to add for everyone, but at least you can now get an 'overview of the services' etc...

-> http://www.FirstwwwComputer.com

Just for you: If like me, you have a lot of eBay clients, I've also got some excellent information that you can share with them.. IE. send out as newsletters, tutorials etc.. etc.. ALL royalty free - package them up as your own they are written by a professional writer and contain lots of high' density 'keywords' - even if you don't have eBay clients, they make excellent reading!
It's a great way to promote your services and keep your clients interested in 'your' services. As a 'thank you' to everyone at Vortech, if you order some SEO services via http://www.FirstwwwComputer.com and add your forum user name in the 'additional Info' box I'll send them to you - they should keep you going for ages and ages and ages

[cambodia]

thank garreg i'm visiting it now ( anyway it's seem not free or i can't find the way to get free ) can detail me bit ? sorry i'm bit bad in english

[Garreg]

Sorry my friend, no it's not free, sadly even I have bills
It's just an option for you to make some extra money re-selling SEO services, the idea is to try and strengthen the position of Vortech Resellers and their services... to my knowledge a dedicated SEO service just for web hosts is not available anywhere else (could be wrong... ) and as a 'thank you' to all my friends here, Vortech resellers get the first chance and freebies that I can muster ... to use it.

The more profitable 'we' are as web host and resellers, the longer we stay in business... good for us, good for Vortech

[admin]

Garreg why did I just get spammed by you for link trading? LoL

Your domain FirstwwwComputer.com is in an email to me about trading links, since my email is on the owners account. How did that happen?

[Garreg]

WOW you mean despite all the SPAM precautions in place here I managed to get an email directly to you? Boy am I good

LOL, seriously, I've just added a link for Vortech on my 'links page' and sort of wondered (*cough.. grovel) if you add one back to me

God loves a trier... and I'm trying (some say I'm 'very' trying ).

[admin]

Well the thing is you spammed me, for one of our customers that is 4 doors down from me that also hosts here.

Might not be a good idea to spam your hosting co. LoL

[mresell]

sounds like a script is not working properly.

[Garreg]

No script, I actually sent it to support@vortechhosting.com - even received a reply... not sure who the other one four doors down is,... LOL

Why does not one think 'Please sell me.... xyz' is SPAM, but hello please exchange a link is?

Ah well.... out of 3'8785'90 emails sent, just had two complains **** Joke !! :tongue:

[admin]

Well it went to info@vortechhosting.com one of my address, for callscore.com no matter how you look at it spam, not spam, link trading. It was still spamming your hosting provider. lol

Trust me your not the first do something like that, my email is on a LOT of domains.

[awen]

I looked around a bit last night, and I must admit, I have no interest in buying something that I have no idea what it is, how it works, etc. Even if I am buying resell rights to it.

Now, reselling hosting I understand. This is a service that is tangible to me, and I was able to see what I got and how much it would cost me before I signed up or submitted any forms.

From what I could gather from FirstwwwComputer, you want to sell me reports on how my site ranks, then I may in turn sell those reports on how my site ranks to others? Why would they care?

Wouldn't my few precious pennies be better spent in advertising rather than seeing how my advertising (or lack thereof) is paying off?

Forgive me if I sound brutal here, I am not the sharpest pencil in the cup, but I am a long way ahead of most of my customers, so if I don't understand what you're selling and why I need it and how I can resell it, why would I?

Take it as constructive criticism and consider adding much more information and explaination on your site. Or as I like to call it... Make it idiot proof so an idiot can understand.

That being said, let me know when you have something like that and I'll be happy to look at it again... being the resident idiot.

[mresell]

There is alot of info on seo stuff here and elsewhere. It is designed to improve your exposure. Essentially, a form of advertising, as well as a compliment. The idea is to set measurable goals. Like advertising it is not guaranteed to have your door beat down. Making the most of the search engines and the media you work in (web). I think for alot of people it will not have their interest like advertising. Lotsof people don't do that either...go figure. While I think everyone can benefit from seo, some more so than others.

Garreg,
Altho, I think an idea of how you charge versus fill a form in and get a quote may help. At least for resellers. A ballpark would be nice. Understandable you may not know all costs.

Also Garreg, you have this on your site. I think you meant analyze.
"Research Highly Optimized Sites (Analysis your competition)"


p.s. If you or anyone else is advertising and not analyzing, assessing or tracking you are making a foolish mistake. How will you know if it is working?

[generic]

is there any range of price, I would love to offer this service, but dont know what to tell prospective clients the pricing, even if its rough, anything other than, "I will have to get back to you on that" will help.

[powvex]

Garreg, What are normal prices?

[Garreg]

Originally Posted by awen

I looked around a bit last night, and I must admit, I have no interest in buying something that I have no idea what it is, how it works, etc. Even if I am buying resell rights to it.

You only have to ask.. there is an FAQ section with information in it, and it does say on the site (in a number of places) if you are unsure - ask

Now, reselling hosting I understand. This is a service that is tangible to me, and I was able to see what I got and how much it would cost me before I signed up or submitted any forms.

We do have a pricing strategy, those that ask are redirected to -> http://firstwwwcomputer.com/Pricing_Strategy.html

The reason it's not linked in the site is that I don't want 'joe public' seeing what 'you ' are paying.

From what I could gather from FirstwwwComputer, you want to sell me reports on how my site ranks, then I may in turn sell those reports on how my site ranks to others? Why would they care?

Wouldn't my few precious pennies be better spent in advertising rather than seeing how my advertising (or lack thereof) is paying off?

Sort off(ish) ... all reports are prepared and offered presented with your logo, your business details, 'your' name. To present to 'your' client. Each has advice and information on how to improve your site, together with adjustments to make so that it may be more search engine friendly and therefore climb the search engines.

I then spend a lot of time (often weeks) working with you to make sure everything is correct and that you (or your client) is getting value for money. It's no over night job I'm afraid.. and if anyone isn't willing to make changes, I won't work with them - after all, why waste $$?

Forgive me if I sound brutal here, I am not the sharpest pencil in the cup, but I am a long way ahead of most of my customers, so if I don't understand what you're selling and why I need it and how I can resell it, why would I?

I don't think your being brutal, as a business model, I welcome you and everyone else's feedback here. This is the only forum where I trust such feedback! Because I know you Guys (and Gals ) want to help and are not like WHT where 'constructive' feedback often really means 'stab in the back'

Take it as constructive criticism and consider adding much more information and explanation on your site. Or as I like to call it... Make it idiot proof so an idiot can understand.

Thanks and I will.... I'm just a little 'cagey' as I don't want to give the competition the tip off to everything. Some SEO companies can be worse than web hosts... No! I here you say ... Yes, it's true

That being said, let me know when you have something like that and I'll be happy to look at it again... being the resident idiot.

Sure thing.. you never know until you ask...
Hope I cleared a little something up for you .

[Garreg]

Originally Posted by mresell

There is alot of info on seo stuff here and elsewhere. It is designed to improve your exposure. Essentially, a form of advertising, as well as a compliment. The idea is to set measurable goals. Like advertising it is not guaranteed to have your door beat down. Making the most of the search engines and the media you work in (web). I think for alot of people it will not have their interest like advertising. Lotsof people don't do that either...go figure. While I think everyone can benefit from seo, some more so than others.

Good points, Sadly SEO is over looked... not by everyone but by 80% (ish) then they grumble about poor sales, poor ranking in Google... Often just knowing how to build SEO techniques into a web site before it is launched can be a major help.

Garreg,
Altho, I think an idea of how you charge versus fill a form in and get a quote may help. At least for resellers. A ballpark would be nice. Understandable you may not know all costs.

Please see above post, I've included a link

Also Garreg, you have this on your site. I think you meant analyze.
"Research Highly Optimized Sites (Analysis your competition)"

p.s. If you or anyone else is advertising and not analyzing, assessing or tracking you are making a foolish mistake. How will you know if it is working?

Thanks I do tend to go screen blind at times I'll correct that today. If there;s anything else please shout up and I'll change (or explain that better as well.